Do you agree with Geert Wilders that Islam is a religion that seeks to restrict peoples freedom ?
He does seem to have a point. Apparently some Muslims were demonstrating ( with complete impunity as usual ) outside of a venue where he was speaking. They were displaying banners with reassuring messages as ‘ Up Sharia law, to hell with freedom ‘. Rather proves Mr. Wilders point I think.
at last a politician who speaks his mind! any muslim i know is a decent person, but as he said, any country where it is the dominant religion, people esp women are oppressed. i think its the interpretation of the Qoran that causes the problems, its actually based on love and stuff, apparently.
i mean, really what do they expect? sharia is the solution – freedom go to hell? that EXACTLY what he was talking about! they dont do themselves any favours, oh and something else "Geert Wilders deserves Islamic punishment". Extremists should be kicked the hell out, let the peaceful muslims and everyone else live in peace. Course they have a right to protest, but their signs said it all, as u already said in ur question. these people need to learn that our countries wont stand back and not comment on the things being done in their religions name – theres been enough political correctness its time to get real. they can have a signs up saying Death to America Up Islam, in the uk, and they get away with it. WHAT DO YE EXPECT YE PSYCHOS.
and islamaphobia – ???i mean, COME ON
Yes I like Geert Wilders he is very brave to say it like it is
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In the name of art we had “Piss Christ”.
In the name of free speech we had “terrorist Muhammad”.
In the name of fun can we have half naked Moses sucking cock?
If you can understand the above then you may find out who Geert Wilders is and his intent and purpose.
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To stand up against extreme Islam is a brave thing to do, our politicians refuse to speak out against it.
yup the death threats do kinda prove his point.
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And Chritianity restrict peoples freedoms?
Lets face it if the religious nut jobs in Christainity got their way there would be no difference between living under their laws and sharia law
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Yes from what I know of Islam that seems to be a fair statement.
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Actually, it’s unquestionable that Islam as a religion does indeed recognise human rights and freedom.
In fact from its very inception, long before these ideas were developed and documented in its modern secular form by the West like the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1948. Islam, as systematically reflected by the Cairo Universal Islamic Declaration of Human Rights, 1981, advocates human rights via syariah.
These objectives include the establishment of justice, individual education and preservation of human welfare or interests by protecting and preserving the freedom of thought, worship, rights to property and preservation of the progeny. These constitute the inviolable principles of “human rights”.
What many fail to understand is that Islam is probably the only religion that honours its followers to the utmost. Islam regards its adherents, both originally born Muslim as well as converts, as invaluable assets. Once they come to the fold of Islam, they stand equal. Therefore, the responsibilities, duties and rights of all Muslims are basically the same. Individually, they are equally entitled to achieve success in this world as well as salvation in the hereafter, guided by and within the parameters set up by syariah.
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Mr Wilders draws attention to the inconvenient truths about the religion of "peace and tolerance" and all quoted from their own book.
And "freedom go to hell"?
Sounds slightly like fascism to me,where were the UAF this time,not to mention the outraged moderate islamics we keep hearing about?
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Just look at any country with a muslim majority and examine how things are ran. Otherwise just examine a video of a public flogging of a girl who didn’t cover herself from head to toe. Or a 13 year old girl forced to marry a 60 year old man, because he wants a 37th wife.
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Like any religion, Islam has its extremes and extremists but should not be identified thus as all ecompassing. Other religions restrict and/or reject forms of personal freedom – Christianity, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons to name a few. Other religions have also subscribed to the view that terrorism is appropriate in order to enlarge a country’s territory (Israel) or to oppose the presence of the military and support independence (Northern Ireland).
Geert Wilders is a highly controversial political figure who has extreme views based on his experience and, as leader of the Party for Freedom, has been successful in gaining several political seats. The party is anti immigration and, based on his first-hand experience of the result of too much immigration within the Netherlands he has also experienced the behaviour of certain groups who have created civil disorder. I do not believe one should paint all Islam with the same brush – like any religion it has members who would use it as a front for mayhem.
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Fundamentalist islam does restrict peoples freedom. And in any case most muslims practice a watered down version of islam, where not everyone wears burqas or beards or carry suicide bombs !!!
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Common Sense
I agree ! Islam is against freedom of speech, dancing, music, movies, converts, eating with either hand, pissing in any direction, educating women, dogs, homosexuals, democracy, women mingling with men (not men mingling with women though), women showing any skin. And much more. And the latest we learned: bras ! No joke check out this link from yesterday’s news:
"Somali Islamists publicly whip bra-wearing women"
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2135208
But they agree with polygamy, forced marriage for women, marrying pre-nubile girls, excision (though they don’t call it such; they call it "removing a woman’s ‘congenital malformation’ "), suicide-bombings (though not the suicide without the "bombing"), killing non-believers, honor crimes targeting women and much more.
And they are so ashamed of themselves for subscribing to such extremist values that talk to any of them about any of those points and they will either tell you that "it is not the real Islam" or that you should not believe what is reported by media.
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Yes I agree.
Until Islam changes that aspect of it’s nature( which it patently cannot do ) then it will clash with Western lifestles.
You only have to look at the response from Emilie ( above ) to see how Muslims are in denial about their own religion’s traits.
They spout fine words then commit barbaric acts…….
There is no such thing as freedom in Islam…….Muslims who think they are free are on borrowed time until the extremists take over.
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Yes i do agree with him. Just wait and see how much freedom we will have in the West if/when Sharia law is introduced.
I have no problem with people practising their own religion, just so long as they don’t force it on others, but that i am afraid is Islam.
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Reading the Koran
Look at any cult type religion and i guarantee what subject dominates thoughts and actions. And it never changes, always a pecking order. I for one will applaud the day all women say no Johnny boy, you go wait and try to be a human being.
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Yes i do.
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Yes whole heatedly. Pity there aren’t more of his ilk.
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Absolutely!
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Yes, it is happening. It is a culture, not just a religion.
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at last a politician who speaks his mind! any muslim i know is a decent person, but as he said, any country where it is the dominant religion, people esp women are oppressed. i think its the interpretation of the Qoran that causes the problems, its actually based on love and stuff, apparently.
i mean, really what do they expect? sharia is the solution – freedom go to hell? that EXACTLY what he was talking about! they dont do themselves any favours, oh and something else "Geert Wilders deserves Islamic punishment". Extremists should be kicked the hell out, let the peaceful muslims and everyone else live in peace. Course they have a right to protest, but their signs said it all, as u already said in ur question. these people need to learn that our countries wont stand back and not comment on the things being done in their religions name – theres been enough political correctness its time to get real. they can have a signs up saying Death to America Up Islam, in the uk, and they get away with it. WHAT DO YE EXPECT YE PSYCHOS.
and islamaphobia – ???i mean, COME ON
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